And I don't say that with bravado, brought on by naivete. I mean it. I want to know. Now.
For years, The Evil Empire has ruled the PM pits with an iron fist. The slightest hint of an EE raid would send shivers and panic through The Turd and anyone else paying attention. There is a possibility, now, that the EE is being neutered. Their onslaughts are becoming less and less effective for the reasons discussed here last evening. So now I want to know! Can Blythe still attack with the same ruthless efficiency? Can she still overwhelm the bid and set off a cascading effect of selling through triggered sell stops and general panic? Yesterday was a clear sign that "the times, may be a changin". As expected, Blythe attacked early and often only to be repelled by strong bids each time. Look at this chart again from yesterday:
So, what's it gonna be? Is the Wicked Witch melting before our very eyes? I want to know which is why I'm practically begging for a raid today. To go on the offensive and attack, we need to have confidence. Another day of muted raids will give me that confidence. Here's a 30-minute chart that sets the stage:
Gold is adding support to silver and must also be watched closely. Open Interest is rising which means managed money is returning rather rapidly. As mentioned here repeatedly, a break of 1390 and its right back to the old highs between 1420 and 1430.
I'm ready for a BIG day. Are you? OK, then, in the words of Mills Lane: "Let's get it on!!"
More later. TF
ps. I failed to mention that yesterday was a brand new record in total pageviews with 34,540. A truly astounding number. Does anyone know if blogspot lists their busiest blogs anywhere?
Oh, well, thanks to everyone. My "sponsors" and I really appreciate it.
10:25 EST UPDATE:
Overlooked in all this silver hubbub is the failed rally in the USDX. This must be watched very closely in the coming days as the support levels that will be coming into play are quite critical.
PMs are approaching their highs of the day as I type. No sign of Blythe yet. Watching and waiting. TF
Turd, looks like an epic day may be on tap. The strength overnight is very telling to what may be in store today.
ReplyDeleteLooking forward to it!
Just discovered this site. Hello Mr T
ReplyDeleteJust to ass a little balance to the rumours that JPM is scrambling to buy phyiscal and raiding the ETFs....
http://www.kitco.com/reports/KitcoNews20110216DeC_CPM.html
Don't you just love history's pivot points? I've always respected and appreciated how Empires can fall on a single day.
ReplyDeleteWe're not there just yet but I think we all feel it looming just ahead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_oJPnSaPlQ
ReplyDeletefor those bob dylan fan's out there :)
sorry, Freudian slip. I meant "add". No bad language filters then
ReplyDelete@miked - This story has been rehashed a few places. In all honesty, the fact that the consulting group found "hundreds of thousands of ounces" means nothing. 500,000 ounces of silver is $15M.
ReplyDeleteThe CIBC in China sold that much silver last month alone...and they're just one single bank.
I'll trust what guys like Eric Sprott, who has actually sourced $550M in silver recently, over some consulting group's vague statements any day.
Miked, welcome to Turd Town. Very funny slip, but great point about the ETF getting raided.
ReplyDeleteAnyone owning GLD or SLV better get while the getting is good, or face getting destroyed when this SHTF.
From the posts on Yahoo today it appears WB and crew have screwed their courage to the sticking point.
ReplyDeleteToday will be a day to remember one way or another.
Yahoo live posts here:
http://search.messages.yahoo.com/search?.mbintl=finance&q=wynter_benton&action=Search&r=Huiz75WdCYfD_KCA2Dc-&within=author&within=tm
Interesting looking at the Kitco 24-hour spot chart with the three-day overlay.
ReplyDeleteThis is the third day in a row we've been at almost exactly the same pivot point. The past two days, Blythe has attacked right about now (10am-ish EST).
Did I sleep though a smashdown to 30.70?
ReplyDelete@Turd: I know you like to post videos and this one comes to mind every time I check this blog... America, have you heard? There's a brand new dance that's called The Turd:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZKR-6jf_2o
This dance ain't for everybody, just the sexy people...
hello nmythblasters
ReplyDeleteI hope you are right, but you would expect any free inventory to have been snapped up long ago if JPM was really anticipating a short squeeze.
I guess you could argue they would be signalling to the market that they are in trouble but I am sure they can buy this stuff through all kinds of companies to avoid a link.
blythe can manage one more dip to 30.60. please?
ReplyDelete@miked
ReplyDeleteWhat you say makes sense regarding short positions on the COMEX buying up all the available inventory, except that there are currently ~300,000,000(that's 300 million) ounces of Open Interest for MARCH! Buying 500,000 to 1M ounces of physical will do nothing...actually, as you state, it would be quite telling if Kitco, Fidelitrade, etc. all stated that they're absolutely out of inventory.
Can you imagine what that would do to the price?!
BTW, yesterday's high in the March11 was 30.97
ReplyDeleteAs we approach and breach 31, are we likely to see Blythe's shorts?
ReplyDeleteYes, but I'm afraid they'll be badly soiled so be sure to look away.
ReplyDeleteYes, somewhere between 31 and 31.20, she's bound to show up.
ReplyDeleteNice to hear that your blog's traffic trends are following that of silver...UP!
ReplyDeleteI posted a little link love for you this morning on the US Silver message board on Yahoo!
Thanks and keep up the good work, Turd.
Thanks, Tripp. The party keeps growing until somebody calls the cops!
ReplyDeleteHere is the first round of attacks right on schedule, should be another interesting day. I am sitting on a pile of money waiting for a nice dip. Do you have a pullback target, Turd?
ReplyDeleteBTFD soon
ReplyDeleteIf Blythe were able to drive things to 30.50, silver would certainly look appealing.
ReplyDeleteat 30.50 i would pile on, absolutely
ReplyDeleteDr.Jerome, I'm in the same mode as you.
ReplyDeleteAfraid to eat breakfast as I might miss something!
I think I slept through something already...the hit to 30.70 early on ??
@John, Turd is the 'Word'! My neck hurts after watching that... way to jumpstart my morning!
ReplyDeletePrepare accordingly...
ReplyDeletehttp://www.theprovince.com/health/silver+stolen+from+home/4300052/story.html
darn it.. its almost to 31.00 where is Blythe when a brother wants to buy in
ReplyDeleteInteresting find, smokeandseeror. thanks for sharing. Wow, we could start a whole new thread on just how each one of us would handle that. I guess for starters you have to call police dispatch and verify the authenticity of folks making requests like that. Probably not a bad idea to ask for a uniform officer for civil standby as well. Fortunately, for me if they opened my safe they would've had to move that decimal about 4 places to the left. lol
ReplyDeletesmoke-
ReplyDeleteExcept for the stabbing part, I'd suspect that this gentleman had found a way to move his assets "off book".
Cotton is up more than 3%, if I take delivery of the physical should I store it in a safe or bury it in the backyard? ..... ;-)
@Turd -- if you are interested in measuring the visibility of the blog (and/or increasing it), look into technorati.com -- I believe you can register your blog to be tracked by them.
ReplyDeletePitchforks and torches, everybody.
ReplyDeleteThe rabble is storming the castle gate!!
knock knock knockin' on heaven's door....aka, $31
ReplyDeletesmokeandseeror,
ReplyDeleteJust a heartbreaking story. I feel sorry for that man and hope the perpetrators get theirs (along with the 'friend' or leaked the info of what he had).
Makes me realize I need to come up with a rock solid storage plan. I do not like in-home safes for the very reason mentioned in this story.
Does anyone know for sure which stock Jim Sinclair was talking about when he said a major brokerage firm was looking to borrow shares at a premium?
ReplyDeleteTIA
Surely JPM has an exit strategy… But, just when I think that the banksters cannot be so stupid as to put their foot in their own bear trap, I am reminded that they designed the banking system that melted down in 2007-08 in the first place. Greed and blindness! May the hogs be slaughtered.
ReplyDelete$30.95 is the Maginot Line for today it appears...
ReplyDeleteThe best storage plan is to tell no-one
ReplyDeleteGinger, I don't either, but I do have a Ft. Knox bolted to the floor and hidden behind piles of junk.
ReplyDeleteThe town did a routine walkabout with our local beat cop and he gave me a tip about that garage door pull (cut it off because they stick a hanger through through the top of the door, catch it and yank it)....and he didn't have a clue to my safe...
Lots of junk is a deterrent, even for me to get to it!
Burying outdoors...heck, I'm near White Sands Missile Range...they could buzz over me and find it that way, too...so I guess I'm just a sitting duck anyway!!!!!
You know, if it gets into the range of yesterday's close and looks to be going a little lower, I'm inclined to do my buy then....my dealer yesterday asked if I thought it would go lower and frankly, I said no. There may be these quick flashes, but they are hard to catch ...heck, a bathroom trip could spell DOOM...
ReplyDeletePoints to ponder:
ReplyDelete- no fiat has ever lasted not one. And every fiat out there today has pneumonia
- no evil scheme has ever lasted forever; the truth will always out at some juncture
- Madoff was a punk and got caught quickly; the EE is far brighter, has far more money, media influence, pols/judges/etc in their pocket like so many coins; but, but, but, it will succumb. We just cannot know exactly how and when.
- The internet, with concommitant instantaneous information flow, will IMO hasten the demise of evil schemes
- well a boy can dream can't he?
@JesusFreakinCO: Bob Chapman opined yesterday that it is AEM, Agnico Eagle.
ReplyDeleteYes, there was speculation here yesterday that it was TRE but that was unfounded, I think.
ReplyDeleteAny thoughts on SLW...seems to be lagging a little?
ReplyDeleteInsight,
ReplyDeleteMaybe it was on ZH(?) that I read a tip.. Someone said to bury your metals at least 3-4ft deep at a location you trust and then sprinkle bb pellets all around the area and far away from the area ..the goal being that any metal detectors would pick up the pellets and no one would have a clue as to where the bb's stop and the metals start.
I don't even tell my children about my metals because I don't want them to say anything at school.
Anyone have any thoughts on SLW and NG. I can't seem to find a reason, but they simply do not seem to be participating the last two days the way I would have expected.
ReplyDeleteI recommend a home safe or a storage box...to serve as a DECOY.....keep some silver in it...but keep the majority elsewhere. Home breakins will torture you to give it up....if you keep it in one place then you have NOTHING to give up except your entire stash.....once you give up your decoy....hopefully you live
ReplyDeleteMr hyde......relax.......they will go through profit taking and accumulation.....you won't get rich in a day....look at SLW chart.....seems very nice to me.....
ReplyDeleteThis brings up a great topic..I want to have PMs in my house but don't know if it's safe or what is the best way to do it...Maybe a new thread on the topic could be started...I'm untieing the garage door pull. thanks for that one..A gated community probably helps a little too...
ReplyDeleteThanks
Its because you own them, Hyde. You're ruining it for everyone else!
ReplyDeleteI'd expect Blythe any minute now. Around 31 spot ought to do it.
kliguy,
ReplyDeleteExcellent advice. duh. I will break mine up and store bits here and bits there. ..Some in the safe sounds like a smart idea. ..Kind of like diversifying in the miners.. don't put all your eggs in one basket.
Scone - thanks! May have to add to my AEM position to spite the EE
ReplyDeleteJFC
Insight, another tip was to bury your PMs in a forest reserve and note the coordinates of the stash with a GPS device.(... and I guess you have to hope that the satellites keep working after TSHTF ...)
ReplyDeleteDamn! I have to go to a meeting. the re-run is just not the same.
ReplyDelete30.99, come on!
ReplyDeleteUSD one of StrongSideJedi's bullets on the fee, fight, foe, fumble; earlier this week! FRN's, fiat rainbow bright; inked US currency, looks to be draped as ass wipe in the shit house; white house; black house!! Yup! All future imprisoned bankster; fraudster gov goons get Titanic loads of the worthless stuff!! Eternal tail pipe stuffing's!
ReplyDeleteJust caught a glimpse of $30 on the lader. 83 contracts sitting at that level on the ask.
ReplyDeleteWhoa. 10:58 EST. Another round begins.
ReplyDeleteAlso, in case anyone's interested, on the TOS Charts page, you can use Settings (wrench icon) to break down the action to 133 ticks. Extreme close-up silver porn, if you will.
anyone worried about their stash can send the entire lot to me.
ReplyDeleteI will give you a certificate and keep it safe for you :)
just breached 31 for a brief second. 31.0030
ReplyDeleteI am showing a high of SIH1 of 30.995, not sure what you are looking at, or where?
ReplyDeleteLooking at spot forex xag/usd.
ReplyDeleteThanks Ginger for that tip on burying....
ReplyDeleteCD. yes, the ticks on TOS are good to watch
e736e346-32cb-11eo-89fe-ooobcdcb5194,
ReplyDelete(that's some screen name you got there:)
I'll figure something out over here. But thank you for the offer. lol. :]
Kliguy38...Mr. Hyde is very relaxed...just a simple question from someone who was dropped on his head as a baby.
ReplyDeleteWhatever Kitco is showing is always a bit different from my March futures quotes. Kitco shows 31.04 as today's high.
ReplyDeleteLong lurker- first time posting. Like many, I am totally distracted from work, etc. by this compelling narrative. Have learned a lot from all of the analysis and want to get into the fight! WB appears to be recruiting a merry band to participate. Is it too late to open an account, buy a contract and stand for delivery with like minded denizens of Turd's punchbowl? Whats the worst case scenario- Actually receiving 5000 oz?
ReplyDeleteSilver is really bumping that $31.00. Bump'n'Grind baby, Bump'n'Grind!
ReplyDelete(I know that sounds really cheesy)
All this PUSH at $31, met with stiff overhead resistance, seems to indicate that there is a very concerted buying effort going on. Silver has only backed off in the slightest all morning. I'm hoping this bodes well and shows that there will be constant pressure upward in the near term.
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty darn impressed with the continued upward push.
Oley - 31 is breached ; im cheering for you guys
ReplyDeletethough the £ is rising against the $ to rain
on my parade. Great entertainment thanks to
everyone here.Hell yes we are too emotionally
involved tho.
Holy crap, did you see that just now?! A 9c move in seconds (up to $31.09)! *Bump* *and* *Grind*!
ReplyDeleteTurd,
ReplyDeleteMany on board here got there " please oh please let us borrow your shares 'letters yesterday; it is most definitely TRE.
BOOM! Gold and Silver just popped. Now they just need to hold and then push more.
ReplyDeleteHere we go!
ReplyDeleteIn Street Fighter, this is referred to as the ADUKEN pattern.
ReplyDelete31 is busted ladies and gents
ReplyDeletecome on Algo's
Run little pony!!!!
ReplyDeleteMr. Hyde more specifically....when the big money decides to move SLW ...it will. Short term they are accumulating and that is a backing and filling process. I still believe SLW has a big move in it on this current leg.....and short and intermediate I am bullish on it. Watch the 20/50 cross ...and strap in
ReplyDeleteThis is almost like watching a sporting event. So clear break above $31... Hope WB & Co. can put that floor in place at $31.
ReplyDeleteHow bout that sports fans!
ReplyDeleteBlythe??
ReplyDeleteHelloo??
Ruprecht??
Helloo????
looks like 31.20 will be the alamo today...don't forget 27 billion in pomo today.....
ReplyDeleteboom shaka-laka laka, boom shaka- laka laka
ReplyDeleteI want to I want to I want to take you HIGHER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B63sKDb4O4E&feature=fvst
Does anyone have an idea of the volume on March contracts on Comex?
ReplyDeleteSoo. ..uh. Was THAT the best they could do for an attack nowadays? ...Don't get me wrong. I'm not laughing at the EE.
ReplyDelete*snicker..snort*
Beware the 12 o'clock smack-down...
ReplyDeleteGreat Googly Moogly!
ReplyDeleteAnd cotton up 7% ..... actually, it's a little scary to see things moving up so fast.
Hi Turd,
ReplyDeleteJust wanted to say that I really like your blog... Your analyses are meat and potatoes and I think its refreshing to see that!
Turd is GOAT. Keep up the good work!
ReplyDeleteKliguy38...Thanks...I agree...probably many folks booking a few profits since the move back to 36 from 29. I just remember when it was over 40...I have no doubt it's going to wave goodbye to 40 as it heads towards 50.
ReplyDeletewow, i'm missing out. where is blythe
ReplyDeleteNot sure if this has been posted yet or not, saw it on GATA.
ReplyDelete"information about the market tightness has been 'blown out of proportion by the silver conspiracy theorists who are trying to portray this as a much more cataclysmic event for the silver market.'"
Kitco
Where's Blythe?
ReplyDeleteI think GATA is just in denial hahaha
ReplyDeleteThere is a real fight going on. This is great!
ReplyDeleteWeeklong lurker....many thx to "TF and friends'" analysis....and ZH for introducing me to TF.
ReplyDeleteBased off of much feedback in the comments section....there seems to be a preference for bullion over junk silver. Obviously, the bullion is higher grade, but are there other drivers for bullion vs junk?
My physical stash is mainly junk (Franklins, Walkers, and Mercurys).
Also, any opinions re: ebay as a junk seller? I have had much success acquiring junk silver via ebay.....any other +/- experiences re: ebay as a source for physical?
Welp
Helloooooo Turd and the Gang !!!!
ReplyDeleteFrom 10K Miles away...
Keep up it up, Say Hello to Blythe Baby
So Silver making new high today....
ReplyDeleteWow! Huge jump up going on right now. Just went over 31.23
ReplyDeleteThis is where Wynter Benton promised a "supernova".
ReplyDeleteWe shall see...
turd's site is absolutely the best i've found to track the price of gold and silver, and it's fun! how can ya beat that? i've been passing the link out like it's candy.
ReplyDeletestoring pm's? tell no one. never open your door unless you know who is on the other side. plan for a home invasion so you're ready. stash the stuff like it's junk, among the junk. keep your birth certificate/marriage license/passport and a bit of cash in the safe.
It's almost noon, but I think Blythe has already reached for the bourbon in her desk drawer.
ReplyDelete:( where is Blythe? I have been waiting to buy.
ReplyDeleteMisesFan...my dealer told me to just buy junk now at .70 above stop ...just by the cheapest. I'm planning to buy more...I hope he's right....I'm diversifed in bars etc. already and have some junk, but now is probably my last buy ,,,,
ReplyDeleteWHERE"S BLYTHE??? I should have locked in the price yesterday after all@!!!!!!
not much of a battle at the moment has to be said... WB the group were indicating that things will heat up significantly once silver passes the previous high....
ReplyDelete31.30 !
ReplyDeleteParabolic! Blythe is getting her ass handed to her today! This song sums up this battle nicely:
ReplyDeleteAssassin
wow we nearly hit 31.35!
ReplyDeleteAnyone who believes anything put out by Kitco and their asshole shill, Nadler, is either hopelessly naive or just plain stupid.
ReplyDeleteDon't get overly excited; PM's DOWN vs. many currencies at the moment. I know vs. the reserve currency buck is important, and I'm lovign it, but it is good to kepp the big picture in mind especially if dollar reverese.
ReplyDeleteI have done quite well with options on SLV to date. However, it has always bothered me that JPM is the custodian. As this short squeeze plays out and it becomes obvious that JPM can't cover their short positions, what will happen to the value of SLV calls, even if the ETF silver is there? Would it be safer to go with miners for the next leg up?
ReplyDeleteThoughts?
Holy Schnikes! Blasted through 31.20 then 31.30... who knew watching charts and numbers on a computer screen could be so riveting.
ReplyDeleteIs this the WB saga playing out in real time... the "supernova" when we cross the 31$ mark? Holy crap, is this shit real?????
Un Freaking Believable
JPM cost a lot of people a lot of money. Now it's collection time or break legs time.
ReplyDeleteWe just hit 31.24........
ReplyDeletewell done all silver bulls! selling some here is not a bad idea tho, Blythe will certainly try to push this down after a new all time high. i'm still holding onto a position and will look to add back when an opportunity arises
ReplyDeleteI hate buying at these prices, but I have to support the cause. I figure it's a good time to buy some numismatic silver coins I've had my eye on, being price inelastic and all.
ReplyDeleteNed Coinstacker
Looking at the miners-- - many are up, as you'd imagine... The surprise is how many are down on a day where PMs and the market is higher...
ReplyDeleteFailing in paper metal today they're Shorting the hell out of many miners. No doubt an attempt to stem excitement and a resulting breakout higher.
That's ok, we can wait. Time is on our side. And it's also main thing BM and the financial terrorists do not have.
Sorry I couldn't resist..
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeyOnNple4M&feature=related
Wow, almost the entire silver strip is in backwardation again. Clearly whoever is buying is buying March and a few other close months.
ReplyDeleteDo you think Blythe will try to attack today? 10am-13m is a quite bearish period on average, specially on Thursdays.
ReplyDeleteOh, now I see we hit it a few minutes ago.
ReplyDeleteThat Supernova appears to be real. And so does the shortage of silver, not just bars. This price move and the fact that someone is calling moves on specific days...supply is short and is about to get it's pants pulled down if all these people stand for delivery.
ReplyDeleteI'd like us to retest $31 then be range-bound for a day in the 31.00 - 31.30 to establish some support there... then it's off to the moon.
ReplyDeleteWell, I just looked at the Bradley Barometer over at alpheefinance.com. This is an old thing he put up and unrefined. The module in the big trading softward has been broken out and is ready to go..I've been talking to him for the last 6 months. He's old, however, and he's sick now, so I'm waiting to get it ...
ReplyDeleteANYWAY...turning point around now and then it looks like a slide could happen into the 23rd, but there is a couple of days on either side. And, these waves don't hold necessarily if Iran is sending ships around...
So, silvergoldsilver's speculation about a possible smash down may be in the cards...or not!
LOL!!!
On JUNK again, the guy said that you've got the silver and the use of it if you need to, so junk would be a good bet now, in terms of price and usefulness
Dear Turd,
ReplyDeleteYour blog is awesome. I really have benefited from it.
A question for you: Once silver breaks above $31.20 convincingly, what's your target price before a meaningful correction?
Thanks
Paging HFT Al Gore rythyms; stage left please
ReplyDeleteReef,
ReplyDeleteI'll surf (or bong) to that. Maybe both.
Misesfan
ReplyDeleteIMHO, ebay was an excellent place to buy silver of all kinds about a year ago. BUT NOT ANYMORE. Prices now are way too high. If you like junk silver you are better off with an online retailer or your local coin shop.
Re: the Kitco CPM Group article. Northwest Territorial Mint is the main source for CPM's assertion that 100 oz bars are plentiful. What total bullshit. NWTM is renowned for selling metal they don't currently have in stock. Those motherfuckers have been repeatedly documented as lying to customers about delivery times. I'd rather keep my fiat than order from NWTM.
ReplyDeleteewc58,
ReplyDeleteI see what you mean in the miners. I am surprised at how modestly they are reacting to the price surge.
Fuck me, Turd's wall has fallen.
ReplyDeleteToday is the day where she could form a triple top and maybe even a reversal. I think she'll raid in the afterhours, since you'll need much less paper to decrease the price. The stronger the up moves intraday, the more action we'll see after the session close.
ReplyDeleteAnd in the worst case, there are always margin hikes and probably a number of other bad tricks that we cannot imagine yet.
They are really putting a lid on the PM shares given the run in the metal. Blast that blythe chick!!
ReplyDeletetime to buy?
ReplyDeleteExtremely comforting to know the b-mers; jpigers, sharks, & pilot fish are gettin some come around on blatant crimex fraud!! F the crimex bankster regulators! Squeeze the rat bastards, as vermin plummet down deep, from the Titanic paper fiat ponzi financial ship! Criminal ilk and imps watery monetary grave has my seal of approval; plus 30 pieces of silver each may take with them on the way to hell!!!!
ReplyDeleteTurd-
ReplyDeleteMy take on Nadler is that Kitco puts him out front and center so that if they get investigated by some regulatory or consumer group for "pushing PMs on unsuspecting investors" all they have to do is point to Nadler and say "see, we told you not to invest!".
The miners will get there; let the shock set in a bit, let folks accept this as real.
ReplyDeleteI would be more happy if this wasn't on a down dollar day, but man I'm being picky, eh?
Commercial Signal Failure
ReplyDeleteWhat's the record comex close for silver again?
ReplyDeleteAfter our GLD/SLV OEX FRYday!! Next humongous line of pigger defense, appears to be 40% ramp off of James Turks 26.40 bottom call! 36.96/37! Between now and then all will be nothin but mini raids! Long & strong physical silver honest real money yesterday, today, and forever!
ReplyDeletewe can't even get a little dip. crazy
ReplyDeleteHappiness Defined: When the New York Spot Silver chart on my Kitco page has to reset its entire chart scale because silver blasted through the top of the chart.
ReplyDeleteThats right Kitco. Make that bastard taller. Alot taller.
Jesus - The miners may lag for a bit. I have heard that hedge funds like to put on a trade where they short the miners and go long the bullion. That may be what some of them are doing here. Eventually the miners will move but probably not as much as the bullion right now.
ReplyDeleteAnother factor may be all this talk about miners "hedging" production. If it's true, those miners are going to lose a ton of money in the future.
@Idowanna Look (and anyone else looking to open a trading account) -- I've had a really good experience with interactivebrokers.com. I had an options account set up in a day, and I can trade options, futures, options on futures, currencies, etc. They need $10k to open the account, though you can dip below that. Beware that if you want to daytrade they will stop you after four or five trades unless you have $25k in the account (SEC regs, I believe). Their Trader Workstation has tons and tons of features that I've only scratched the surface on, but it looks like everything I could want is in there.
ReplyDeleteHell of a day today! My best so far. I was really hoping for a dip this morning to load up some more, but so far haven't found an entry point. Nevertheless, I'm a happy camper. Turd, those two entry points you mentioned on gold and silver futures have worked out VERY well. Up 50% in both already.
Spot silver seems to have topped @ 31.35 and it is a little too quiet. Possibly the raid will come after the CRIMEX closes...
ReplyDeleteoldNavy:
ReplyDeleteSubstitute SIVR for SLV.
This is not a supernova like reaction. I saw a glimpse of rocket fuel, when 424 contracts appeared on the silver bid side. This was right before we blasted through 31.20.
ReplyDeleteWhoever flashed that order was sending a message.
The supernova can be accomplished with as little as 10,000 contracts. Put in order of 150 contracts at the market. Wait for a correction and throw down another 300. Once the move from the purchase of 300 is done, throw down a 1000. Sell into the subsequent short rally that is triggered from your order.
Rinse and repeat.
Pull this off in Globex for maximum carnage.
You can daytrade all you want with a forex account that has gold and silver spot prices. The minimum entry is a lot lower than $10,000 too. I think you can open most for $1000 or even less.
ReplyDeletelooks like Blythe just woke up
ReplyDeleteThere are stops at 31.4 ... Blythe will defend this level
ReplyDeleteTurd,
ReplyDeleteis 31 new support?
Similar is 1385 the upper line of my resistance band - similar 1385 is "protected".
ReplyDeleteAt least for a while.
Strategy is sell some at these resistance levels - buy back the correction - and have limit buy orders above the resistance levels.
Besides maintaining a core.
I just love how all the loathing of the raids has now morphed into us begging for them. Hilarious.
ReplyDeleteWill we actually be pissed off in a few days time if we can't get a dip to buy? Now that would be luxury
I think the page 'hits' is a testament to the objectivity of your work.... people really appreciate your efforts..
ReplyDeleteThanks so much.!!
@pick52
ReplyDeleteyou're completely right! for those that were trying to trade, blythe was doing us a favor by making the manipulation so obvious.
i think a little greed plays into it as well. people want to accumulate as much as possible before an explosion
pick52,
ReplyDeleteI was just thinking of that irony.
You're welcome, Dave.
ReplyDeleteThis is great fun.
this is a wonderful blog; im glad to of came across it!
ReplyDeleteI have a quick question: Im using E*Trade's (i know..) E*Trade Pro platform to trade and what not.. I'm trying to find a way to chart the silver spot, but can i not do that? Is there not a conventional ticker i can use? Obviously a newbie, and any help would be greatly appreciated.
keep up the good work
I see another up move forming....
ReplyDeleteI particularly like the fact that we can share often conflicting views of the PM stocks and markets without conflict. Refreshing.
ReplyDeletewhat a great day for all turdites .... I am soooooo STOKED!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteHarvey's gunna have a real good read tonight!
ReplyDeleteMr. Norcini just posted about the nonsense cropping up again about "gold confiscation."
ReplyDeletehttp://traderdannorcini.blogspot.com/2011/02/gold-confiscation-chatter-once-again.html
new gold/silver ratio: 43.98
ReplyDeleteagreed - I cant wait for harveys take on this..
ReplyDeletebtw this was my swiss based source ... DS has it from his broker, who again has a lot of spec accounts ... maybe not that important ... anyway the message was "above 31.40" .. whatever that means ...
ReplyDelete@Mister
ReplyDelete"NWTM is renowned for selling metal they don't currently have in stock. Those motherfuckers have been repeatedly documented as lying to customers about delivery times. I'd rather keep my fiat than order from NWTM."
There's a guy hanging out on PM boards I read who has it in for NWTM. Keeps using different aliases, trashing talking the mint on a fairly regular basis.
I'm a satisfied NWTM customer. I bought a lot of silver from them. Never had a problem. Latest order arrived this week.
Do your own research. Trust but verify --- to include my posts.
Do your own research.
With big interest I read Turd's posts today and yesterday and all discussions. There were some ideas about how JPM can defeat against upcoming crash day but seems nobody took into account the next possible solution.
ReplyDeleteAs we know the main idea of WB group of speculators (and they ARE speculators) is to buy OI, stand for delivery, get at least 20% of cash settlement and repeat these steps in future. Quick and easy money. And lots of rumors that something like that already happened in Nov/Dec.
But what happens if JPM instead of paying premium will really delivery physical silver for these guys? You wanted physical silver? You get it. You wanted quick and easy money? Sorry guys, have you silver and eat it. And pay fees for physical storage, commissions for future selling, etc.
Silver prices in this case will definitely go down in short-term period and I doubt that somebody will try to catch JPM in the same trap one more time in future.
As for me very possible situation. And don't tell me that there is no such amount of physical silver around. Nobody knows this for sure. As for me it is very possible that EE can find it in one or other way. Especially if WB ideas have been passing through Internet for several weeks and you have time to prepare.
What do you think?
In my book the HUI is sending the same picture we already had recently - not confirming the metals rally.
ReplyDeleteSome misleading eventually because of AEM and KGC. But nevertheless - quite disappointing - and raising some small red flags imho.
Or is that just due to stock OE tomorrow?
Pretty strange anyway.
I am long physical gold, silver
ReplyDeleteBut this thought keeps rankling me all the time. Why do big banks want to naked short the PM market? They could easily rig the market higher creating a bubble sucking in every gullible retail investor and then bursting it. Don't you think it is much easier?
I think that even if you are right Sergiy, the WB group will simply pivot and start buying/taking possession of silver in order to make money ... either way Blythe is screwed.
ReplyDeleteI don't know why I have to keep posting this, but all with all this talk about the miners not keeping up I feel compelled. Hedge funds have a trade where they short the miners and buy bullion. That may explain the divergence in performance and really isn't all the strange at all since it's been that way for a very long time.
ReplyDeleteyes, I too am looking forward to harvey's take on this, but (no offense to harvey ...) the turd packs more punch.
ReplyDeleteAnd isn't there a bearish rising wedge being built last few trading days?
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand that is an inverted SHS too - with a target of 60 for GDX shortly - 60 min.
hmmm ... a pretty mixed picture.
Or am I seeing ghosts?
Sergiy,
ReplyDeleteIf they actually delivered the silver then everyone KNOWS they won't have it for next month and everyone and their mom would hop on board
flaunt - i have never seen such a divergence in the last 10 years.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand I haven't seen a rally like this silver rally in the last 10 years.
Possibly if the shares rallied too ... the metals would fly even more. So the bad guys are pulling the brakes where they still can ...
Or who knows - maybe there is even selling shares to get into silver futures?!
Wow
ReplyDeleteFnA
Wow. Silver Eagles are drying up on APMEX! I never have seen them that low in inventory. Check it out and let me know if I'm seeing things!
ReplyDeleteCNBC: Silver rise cause by inflation hedge and short squeeze.
ReplyDeleteThanks guys
@ 9fa0fce4-3abc-11e0-aa7a-000bcdcb5194
ReplyDeleteHere's the Kitco 24HR live chart:
http://www.kitco.com/charts/livesilver.html
Hamp - Yes, I would say that's accurate. I've never seen such a divergence between NY spot and front-month futures either. It's been nearly 10 cents all day long.
ReplyDeleteAnd I remember last year when gold and silver were moving up people were complaining about miner underperformance so I know it has happened to some degree in the recent past. Maybe not to the degree you're seeing now, I don't know.
Peter Schiff was the one who talked about this hedge fund trade, and they made out good on that trade before so the chances they'd put on the same trade are high, I think.
lol e - they always have to have an answer for everything.
ReplyDeleteFlaunt, you yourself wisely hedge with the word "may". Many of us are aware of the bullion on/miners off hedgie tactics. Perhaps it does explains it, we're just observing the various aspects of what's transpiring today.
ReplyDeleteIf this long bullion/short miners trade is indeed going on. Anyone have thoughts on if they could get squeezed on their miner shorts?
ReplyDeleteWell yeah, I would never say with 100% certainty because I know the reality of markets. Nobody ever knows exactly what is going on. If that were possible, the centrally-planned economies like ours would be bulletproof.
ReplyDeleteJames Turk was calling for a short squeeze on Silver yesterday on KWN:
ReplyDeletehttp://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2011/2/16_Turk_-_Massive_Short_Squeeze_in_Silver,_Gold_to_Hit_New_Highs.html
Here it is.
Marco, Tyler
ReplyDeleteWe are talking about SPECULATORS, and their purpose is to make quick and easy profit. Selling silver in this case is not "quick and easy". They will have to wait for months to make the same 20% profit.
Actually my point is that lots of guys there are too optimistic. In reality EE has lots of power to defend itself. If gentlemen cannot win they change rules.
How much longer can gold resist the power of the Silver Supernova?
ReplyDelete@JP. That was my first-ever post disparaging NWTM on any message board. My experience, and that of many others in the past, has been quite different from yours. I'm glad to hear that your purchases were delivered in a timely manner. Perhaps they have changed their ways.
ReplyDeletePatrick,
ReplyDeleteAPMEX has 46,571 2011 Silver Eagles left.
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ReplyDeleteWord verification: diffeest
ReplyDeleteI am enjoying diffeest of the silver bulls upon the mouldering carcass of the paper shorts.
wynter_benton...OUT
ReplyDeletehttp://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_J/threadview?m=tm&bn=10073&tid=387167&mid=387167&tof=1&frt=2
Well, well.
ReplyDeleteLet's see if Wynter takes ANOTHER page from Blythe's book and doubles down on the Globex.
We shall see...
richjamescouch,
ReplyDeleteLike you I have been watching the futures action; someone is goosing this puppy right under the bid with the occasional 100/400 offer. It's a $1 day for silver!!
as far as the eye can see now!
ReplyDeleteSolid Booster Eject,
ReplyDeleteSecond Stage Ignition,
Night Flight To Venus.......
Wow Pete,
ReplyDeleteYet another wrinkle to contend with
The latest from Wynter_Benton:
ReplyDeleteWe would like to thank everyone that gave us a chance to help them with their silver investment but we have decided that this is the right time to bid farewell. After all what better time than when silver is at an all time high. No one who followed our advice can possibly be down. It was exactly three weeks ago today when we hit the low in silver. No one could have imagined that in 3 weeks, we would now be hitting new highs. But this is exactly how we said it would unfold during the first week of January.
There are many reasons for us to conclude our "broadcast" this time, chief of which is that there is a far better forum (in Turd Ferguson's blog) by which to communicate our basic message. Compared to Turd's blod, our method of communication is woefully short. Another reason is that there is no longer any real value to what we can add between now and March, or May, or September.... You should all know our game plan by now.
But finally, the most important reason why we have to cease our communication now is that our traders interest may not necessarily align with the retail investors from here on out. In the run up to $37 or $40 or whatever, we may at times be massively short contracts to shake out the average investors. Yes indeed, we may be taking on Blythe's role from time to time. Nothing serious, of course. Our shorts will be quick to see if we can take out some stops. From here on out, it will be very volatile and we may be in a position to take out your stops before we go long again so please be careful when setting stops. Everyone must be at their all time highs so please think of an exit strategy.
We will always be long the physical silver until atleast $80 before we even consider selling a small amount, so our interest will always align with yours if you are long the physical. Also please remember that the bulk of our buying will occur next week even if Comex won't properly disclose it.
We may be back if something extraordinary occurs but that is doubtful. For a few people who have been our ardent supporters, we remain open to continuing communications through email.
Once again, we wish you all the best from here on out.
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